we'll get the update on london. we'll get the update on that. and a proposal has been put forward a member put forward by a member of parliament there parliament suggesting there should be a ministry for should now be a ministry for men. do we really want yet another subset of a government department? but before all of that , let's get the news from that, let's get the news from aaron armstrong . good evening to you. >> i'm aaron armstrong in the newsroom. a manhunt is underway after a former soldier charged with terror offences escaped from wandsworth prison . 21 year from wandsworth prison. 21 year old daniel abad khalif is accused of leaving fake bombs at accused of leaving fake bombs at a military base while serving with the army. it's understood he escaped from a prison kitchen and clung to the underside of a food delivery van. he was last seen wearing a chef's uniform. uk ports and airports are on high alert with delays reported as a result of extra security checks. commander dominic murphy, head of the met's counter—terror command, says the police are doing all they can. >> have officers and staff from

across london and counter terrorism policing. so across the country, as is normally the case in these matters, we have published the details of daniel khalif to officer colleagues around the country and borders colleagues as well. our intention here is to try and find him as quick as possible. i believe very strongly that he presents a low risk to the public, but nonetheless , he is public, but nonetheless, he is an individual who was on remand and should be in custody. and we're doing everything we can to try and find him as quick as possible. >> sir keir starmer has claimed cowboys country cowboys are running the country as he criticised rishi sunaks handung as he criticised rishi sunaks handling school's handling of the school's concrete crisis . ahead of prime concrete crisis. ahead of prime minister's he visited minister's questions. he visited one many schools which one of the many schools which have ordered to fully have been ordered to fully or partially . the labour partially close. the labour leader says ministers have been cutting corners and carrying out botched jobs . but the prime botched jobs. but the prime minister responded by saying the government has acted decisively in the face of new information. calls sir keir starmer captain . calls sir keir starmer captain. hindsight 17 people, including a

child, have been killed and 32 injured by a russian missile strike in the city of kostiantynivka in the east of ukraine. ukrainian authorities have posted footage which shows a loud explosion ripping through a loud explosion ripping through a busy market. the attack came hours after the us secretary of state, antony blinken, paid a surprise visit to kyiv to reaffirm us support for ukraine. the uk is set to rejoin the european union's flagship horizon science research programme. the government negotiated membership of the £85 billion scheme in the brexit withdrawal agreement, but it was never ratified because of disputes that emerged over the northern ireland protocol. the report suggests prime minister rishi sunak will confirm a final deal this week after a two year absence and today was the hottest day since 2016, with temperatures reaching 32 degrees at kew gardens in london. it could peak on saturday with 33 degrees forecast , which would be degrees forecast, which would be even warmer than obe. if it

does, it will be the uk's hottest day of the year . an hottest day of the year. an amber warning for heat has been issued until sunday evening . issued until sunday evening. this is gb news on tv on digital radio and on your smart speaker to just say play gb news. now it's back to . nigel it's back to. nigel >> good evening. well the work and pensions secretary mel stride has said today we've got to do something about the number of people claiming out of work benefits. the figure has risen and it rose very , very sharply and it rose very, very sharply dunng and it rose very, very sharply during and after the pandemic to 5.4 million. just think about that 5.4 million people in this country are working age who are not working but are receiving benefits . and of that number, benefits. and of that number, about 40% of them are on disability benefits of one kind or another. that's about . 2.5 or another. that's about. 2.5 million people. now, what the minister is saying is, of course

, for those who are severe disabled, for those who genuinely cannot work , we will genuinely cannot work, we will as a civilised country, give a safety net to those people. but what he's saying is there are plenty of those people who could, especially now with work from home and flexible working, get back into to the workplace. and these comments are backed up by the prime minister, rishi sunak, making the point that actually for many people, going back to work is a good thing. you know, if you're told you're too unwell to work and you're signed off by the gp, well, in many cases that leads to negative thoughts. it leads to you thinking somehow i'm a victim and i know something about this because after the aeroplane crash that i was involved in in 2010, when the x rays came back and i had major surgery, the neurosurgeon said, well, nigel, with your condition, if you want, i can sign you off as partially disabled and i told him politely, where to go. you see,

i think for many people this is about a state of mind and if government could provide a way to get a million people off disability benefits and back into work , that would be an into work, that would be an enormous benefit to the country. you see, what we're actually doing is in the very same towns and cities where we've got large numbers of people on out of work benefits. we've also got huge job vacancies as and guess how we're filling those vacancies? well, we're doing it by having immigration numbers of over 1 million people every single year coming in to do those jobs, which of course, in turn in then puts more massive pressure on pubuc puts more massive pressure on public services , housing and public services, housing and pretty much everything else. but there is one disappointing element in what mel stride has had to say. he doesn't intend for these changes to come in until 2025. they've been in office since 2010, but these reforms won't come in until 2025, which is after the next

general election, which i think labour will probably win . so labour will probably win. so i put it to you will these important vital reforms ever actually happen ? give me your actually happen? give me your thoughts. farage at gb news dot com. now for al—hadi is head of policy at disability rights uk and joins me down the line. faisal, i want to reemphasize this that for those that genuinely are disabled and have no means or way of working , we no means or way of working, we will be civilised. of course , as will be civilised. of course, as a society. but the point i want to make is this if i go back to 1981, there were 790,000 people in the united kingdom who had disability rights and benefits accordingly , that figure has accordingly, that figure has rocketed . to 2.5 million and rocketed. to 2.5 million and many of the new cases and it's roughly a thousand people a day are being registered in this way

. much of this is to do with depression and anxiety. surely we for many of these people getting back to work might actually be a cure . actually be a cure. >> well, while we're sort of sharing figures with your viewers, the figure i'd like to share is that there are 5 million disabled people working , working today in the labour market, contributing . and in market, contributing. and in fact, it was only last year that the government gave itself a pat on the back for getting 1.3 million more disabled people into work. so i think i think we need some perspective on this. now, i'm really pleased that you and mel stride believe that there should be a safety net for disabled people who genuinely can't work. and we can agree on that. but what i can't agree on is using a use measures like tinkering with the work

capability assessment to support disabled people into work. going back to your point about giving people hope and changing mindsets , yes, there's lots of mindsets, yes, there's lots of ways to do that. you can provide targeted employment support. you can make the access to work scheme work. at the moment, there's 14 week delay. you can implement the equality act so that employers have to make reasonable adjustments. the government has got an array of levers that it could use, but why is it choosing wrong, if you like, put disabled people under the cosh and answer a load of questions to be honest, which don't really tell anyone whether people can work or not. so i'd really i really challenge why they're doing it in this way. we've always disabled people who can work. i've always wanted to work and they haven't been given the right support . are they the right support. are they really ? really? >> are there are. i mean, do you really believe that there are four times the number of people

who are disabled and can't work today as there were in 1981? well i think, you know, the demographic demographics have changed. >> we're a much older population and a lot of age is linked to disability age and disability are linked. so when we look at people over 60, the population of disabled people is more like 42. we've increased the retirement age, so it's not till 67. we're a different society now , but the demographics i'm now, but the demographics i'm sure, are playing their part. yeah okay. >> no, no. i mean, they are all they are all fair points to mitigation. i absolutely accept that. mitigation. i absolutely accept that . but the mitigation. i absolutely accept that. but the big picture is this with 5.4 million people of working age not working with a culture, it would seem entrenched in some parts of our big cities that says there's no point going to work. you don't need to actually you're just as well off not working . whether well off not working. whether that's true or not, that

culture, i'm afraid, has become embedded . we simply can't afford embedded. we simply can't afford to go on with job vacancies and this number of people not working . that's really, i think, working. that's really, i think, what the government's saying, isn't it? yeah, but i think, nigel, if we really look at the root causes, who wouldn't want to work at the moment? >> i mean benefit levels are shockingly low . most people on shockingly low. most people on benefits are going to foodbanks, they can't pay their energy bills. it is not like they're leaving , leading a good quality leaving, leading a good quality life. so i don't except if people are given the right support and the right tools . um, support and the right tools. um, you know, whether that's more digital training, whether that's more targeted training, for example , i'm blind, but someone example, i'm blind, but someone else might have a learning disability. we need targeted help to get back into the workplace. the point i'm making is that we why choose to make a test, a work capability assessment harder and more

onerous and more hostile when actually so many things could be put in place to support us into work. and not only more money would we get if we were in work, we'd get social .contact.we'd we'd get social .contact. we'd get a sense of purpose. yes. who wouldn't want to go into work? >> oh, no. i mean that we >> oh, no, no. i mean that we all agree with. it's the culture that i was talking about. faisal fadi, thank you very much indeed for is forjoining me in what is a very, very important debate for our future. now, when comes our future. now, when it comes to this culture that i've talked about being embedded in certain communities cases communities and in some cases going generation after going on for generation after generation, if i look at the league table, the worst at the worst urban area in the entirety of the united kingdom is blackpool over a quarter of the working age population are on out of work benefits of one kind or another. and scott benson is the member of parliament for blackpool south. scott, what and earth is going on in blackpool ?

earth is going on in blackpool? >> good evening nigel. well funnily enough i visited my local job centre several weeks ago , had a chat with a dwp staff ago, had a chat with a dwp staff there. they told me that over 40% of young people who are on unemployment benefits at the moment are frankly not playing ball with a system . they refuse ball with a system. they refuse to turn up to interviews . they to turn up to interviews. they don't answer the phone and they will not engage at all. and the dwp staff there who have been given millions of pounds by the government for work coaches all the support, tailor made support people need to get these young people need to get these young people into work. they are so frustrated and they tell me they haven't got the tools to sanction people who can work but who clearly, for whatever reason , don't want. >> i made the point that actually, whilst benefits are there, if you look at the wages that are being offered, given the labour shortages , as you the labour shortages, as you know, in the north—west, actually only people can go out and get really quite well paid jobs. youngsters jobs. this 40% of youngsters would be better off in work. so

why don't they want to? >> they absolutely would be better off in work, nigel and i'm have a rotten i'm afraid we have a rotten culture the heart of british culture at the heart of british society suspect generation society and i suspect generation after generation this is getting worse. so that to thousand job vacancies in blackpool today and yet for whatever reason some young people and people of all ages don't want to take those jobs. i've spoken to traders all summer in our tourism related economy. they tell me they've had job adverts out for month after month. very few people apply. and ironically, when people do apply for these jobs, some of whom go out of their way not to get them properly, told me people turn up drunk at job interviews to avoid getting job. >> no, you know, to some extent that category you're talking about are slightly different to those on disability benefits, but it's still part eight of this 5.4 million. so is what you're saying, scott benton, that you feel that the benefits offices need to have the ability to put tougher sanctions in

place ? place? >> absolutely. and by the way, nigel, that's not me saying that. that's the dwp staff themselves who are so frustrated at the situation when they see clients day in, day out who can work but who choose not to. so clearly the government has a job here to look at this, 5 million people who are out of work at the moment. we keep talking about sluggish growth, low productivity. for goodness productivity. well for goodness sake, it starts here. and if we can't solve this issue , guess can't solve this issue, guess what? we'll have to rely on the easy lever of cheap foreign laboun easy lever of cheap foreign labour, which is exactly what we're doing to the most extraordinary degree on disability . disability. >> i mean, what mel stride says, he's right actually, that we will provide help for people training for people , encourage training for people, encourage the use of work at home and flexible working to get people off disability and back into work and to get and i do believe myself if to get people away from feeling like they're victims, i think it must be a very negative and very, very bad place to be. when it was offered

to me, it was the last thing i wanted after an aeroplane crash. i wanted to get well and get back to work. you know. but not everybody feel like that. everybody does feel like that. and, know, perhaps seeing and, you know, perhaps seeing the signed off is the gp and being signed off is in of downward in itself part of a downward spiral. so think much of what spiral. so i think much of what mel stride is saying backed up spiral. so i think much of what methe ride is saying backed up spiral. so i think much of what methe prime saying backed up spiral. so i think much of what methe prime minister, icked up spiral. so i think much of what methe prime minister, is ed up spiral. so i think much of what methe prime minister, is right. by the prime minister, is right. and yet we've to wait till and yet we've got to wait till 2025 when we may well have a labour government this is a problem i'm afraid what the secretary announced secretary of state announced yesterday is a step forward. >> i personally don't think it goes far enough deal with goes far enough to deal with this issue of sickness this systemic issue of sickness andindeed this systemic issue of sickness and indeed those who can work , and indeed those who can work, but who on unemployment but who are on unemployment benefits refuse do so. benefits and refuse to do so. it's a step forward. it's not far enough. and as you say, nigel, what are the odds of this actually implemented ? actually being implemented? well, in 2025, pretty unlikely . well, in 2025, pretty unlikely. >> i would have been asking that question of you and of the audience and folks, just to sort of conclude piece , and i'll of conclude this piece, and i'll be interested to your be very interested to get your comments moment. i don't comments in a moment. i don't think chance in think there's a catch chance in hell happening . i think hell of this happening. i think both conservative and labour

governments, rather than grasp this nettle and face the abuse they're going to get from the bbc and the guardian and everybody else will just go on relying on cheap imported foreign labour. that's my guess. let's for hope everyone's sake that i'm wrong in a moment. well, an old fashioned prison breakout from hm prison, wandsworth. we'll talk about that and why. and albanian gangster can't be extradited to the uk because apparently our prisons simply aren't good enough. quality and welcome will join me on that in just a moment

>> you're listening to gb news radio . radio. >> so will it ever happen ? well, >> so will it ever happen? well, i'm sceptical. one viewer says to me, no chance. just like everything else they say, it's all words and no action. an ian says to me on this topic, i doubt it. even if flip flop

rishi allows it starmer's lot will reverse it. well. ian yeah, but i mean you see flip flop rishi is lot say they're not going to do it till 2025. and finally paul says, won't ever happen even if the tories stay in power because as soon as the left starts saying it's cruel and the government will and nasty, the government will be too terrified to put it in place. paul i suspect you're right. it's a very , very right. it's a very, very different conservative party to the one of the 1980s who believed in what they were doing and took the criticism that came with it. so we learn of an extraordinary breakout from hm prison. wandsworth that took place earlier on this morning. a man who was an army officer who was arrested , put in prison was arrested, put in prison awaiting trial for planting fake bombs around barracks. this happenedin bombs around barracks. this happened in january of this yeah happened in january of this year. it did not, of course, make the news at all. well, i have to say daniel khalifa is making the news now. and it really was a colditz style escape, dressed in a chef's

uniform strapped it to the underneath of a delivery van. and i don't quite know where we are with this manhunt, whether anybody has a clue where he is. but as you would expect, gb news is home and security editor mark white is down opposite a new scotland yard. mark, please bnng scotland yard. mark, please bring us up to date with this manhunt. what on earth is going on? >> well, it is a nationwide manhunt at the moment. we are told that there is extra security at ports and airports right around the country. and very long queues at those ports and airports because understandably, they're checking everyone that might fit the description of this young man to ensure that he doesn't leave the country . see, a lot of the country. see, a lot of the search activity is being concentrated around london for the time being. he has connections to kingston in south—west london, not that far really from , um, hmp wandsworth

really from, um, hmp wandsworth in south—west london, where he escaped from just before eight this morning. and it was an audacious escape there is no doubt about it, clinging to the underside of a food delivery van as it left that prison. i spoke as it left that prison. i spoke a little earlier to dominic murphy , who is the commander in murphy, who is the commander in charge of counter—terrorism policing here at scotland yard, and he brought me up to speed with what happened. >> so around 750 this morning, daniel cliff , who is a man who daniel cliff, who is a man who was on remand following a counter—terrorism investigation in escaped from wandsworth pfison in escaped from wandsworth prison and is currently at large somewhere in the uk and in terms of how he escaped , we're told of how he escaped, we're told that he was wearing chefs paraphernalia. >> chef's uniform and that he may have clung to the underside of a food delivery truck . is do of a food delivery truck. is do you know that to be the case? >> well, i can say that he was. yes wearing chequered red and white trousers and a white t shirt and brown boots when he

escaped from prison. as to how he escaped, that's entirely a matter for the prison service. clearly, will form part clearly, it will form part of our investigation. that's a matter for prison service . matter for the prison service. >> so confirmation there , of >> so confirmation there, of course, that he was wearing that chef's uniform. the police wouldn't go into whether he was clinging to the underside of the vehicle . but i have had that vehicle. but i have had that confirmed from other sources that that was indeed the case. and i can guarantee that from now on throughout the prisoner's state, you will see me as a matter of course, checks involving these mirrors on long sticks often used , of course, to sticks often used, of course, to detect explosive devices under vehicles. now being used to check whether there are any prisoners under these vehicles leaving prisons across the country . country. >> mark white, thank you very much indeed. well, really quite extra ordinary story and pretty unusual to get a prison break like this. we're joining me now down the line is ann widdecombe, former minister of state for

prisons. and of course, a brexit party mep, colleague of mine in more optimistic days just a few years ago, ann , and prison years ago, ann, and prison breaks like this are relatively rare these days , aren't they? rare these days, aren't they? well well, there's always a certain level of prison breakouts. >> but what's odd about this is, look, wandsworth is a remand prison, but it's most certainly not an open prison. i mean, it's secure and therefore , as secure and therefore, as a matter of routine, the vehicles are coming in and out, mirrors are coming in and out, mirrors are held underneath the vehicles . i mean, both ways . and, you . i mean, both ways. and, you know, vehicles are normally searched on leaving their searched on leaving their searched for things like drugs . searched for things like drugs. and i do not understand i mean, if this story is true that he got out clinging to the underside of a car or vehicle, which is the standard escape method, you see in every prisoner of war film that you ever see. you know, prisoners find it. it's so standard. it's so basic, it's so easy to counter. i don't understand it.

if it's true . if it's true. >> no. well, we'll find out more. but it does sound as though it is true. and a remarkable breach of security . remarkable breach of security. now, anne, we have an albanian criminal . he now, anne, we have an albanian criminal. he smuggled a stone in of cocaine into the united kingdom. he's laundered approximately a third of £1 million. and he's currently being held in a prison in germany. and the british government have gone for an extradition . but a german court extradition. but a german court and a big german court using rules from our old friend, the european convention on human rights have said that he can't come to the uk because our prisons aren't up to standard. it sounds astonishing. please can you tell us what on earth is going on? well i mean, you know, they're talking through the hat's quite honestly, i mean, to say that our prisons aren't capable of housing serious criminals, of course they are . criminals, of course they are. >> and of course, you know,

prisoners are fed. prisoners have access to medicine. but, i mean, it is perfectly true that with the overcrowding levels that there are at the moment, the regimes, which i can't believe this guy would be remotely and the remotely interested and the regimes training and regimes of training and education and those sorts of things, they get squeezed out. they squeezed because the they get squeezed because the more prisoners the more prisoners you have, the more prisoners you have, the more prisoners you have, the more prison officers have to deal with security rather than deaung deal with security rather than dealing with sorts of dealing with those sorts of things. very often the first things. and very often the first casualty of overcrowding is actually the rehabilitation regimes . so actually the rehabilitation regimes. so that actually the rehabilitation regimes . so that is actually the rehabilitation regimes. so that is poor. but i can't believe an albanian drug smuggler, you know, is absolutely dying to do his nvq in something or other. you know, it's most unlikely. so i think the german courts are making a rather pathetic and very silly point , a very rather pathetic and very silly point, a very silly point . point, a very silly point. >> and yet german judges as an are using echr not to deport a foreign criminal in much the same way, we could argue that british judges interpret echr so

that we can't deport foreign criminals. took us ten years to get rid of abu qatada. doesn't it illustrate once again just how ludicrous this well intentioned convention that came into force 70 years ago last week is ? week is? >> i mean, it was never designed to cope with what we're coping with today any more than was the 1951 convention on refugees . it 1951 convention on refugees. it was designed to deal with the appalling circumstances that we had encountered after the second world war, during the second world war, during the second world war, during the second world war, before it, and immediately after it. it was those appalling circumstances that they were trying to counter. no what modern day circumstance is. and so frankly, echr isn't fit for purpose. it's why we can't send prisoners to rwanda . i mean, rwanda's asylum rwanda. i mean, rwanda's asylum seekers to rwanda. rwanda is perfect , acceptable as an perfect, acceptable as an offshore processing centre . and offshore processing centre. and it's why , as you rightly say , it's why, as you rightly say, we're limited in what we can do

with criminals. now, the answer is to come out of echr. it's not to abandon all human rights. god forbid, but it's to have our own bill of rights, which is proportionate and sensible and limited and ditch echr not so easy because of various treaty obligations, but could be done if only we had a government that was determined to do it. >> is this a bit like brexit? round two, this whole question of a court that is completely outlived the usefulness of its original intention, rather like the trade deal that we were sold back in the common market days had become a political union. do you think the british public are ready for this? >> i think they're ready for us to come out of echr because i think gradually , just through think gradually, just through stories like this , it's stories like this, it's gradually infiltrating the pubuc gradually infiltrating the public consciousness that this institution isn't working the way that it was designed to work when it was very first set up. and things do become redundant over the years. things that were desperately necessary when they

were created do become redundant and i'm afraid that that is what has happened with echr. now there is a choice. either it itself reforms and looks to a different brief or we come out and we institute our own brief . and we institute our own brief. >> well, i'm welcome as ever. plenty of clarity there . thank plenty of clarity there. thank you for joining plenty of clarity there. thank you forjoining us again on the you for joining us again on the show. in a moment, we will talk about the proposed meeting that's going to take place between little rocket man from nonh between little rocket man from north korea and, of course, mr poots in what does it all mean for months into the ukrainian so—called spring offensive ? oh, so—called spring offensive? oh, i nearly forgot natwest have a new chairman . i nearly forgot natwest have a new chairman. is he going to be any better than sir howard davis? all of that in

radio. we need to refocus on what's

going on in ukraine. >> there is perhaps quite a big political development taking place, one that could boost russia's military power. also something very big has happened in the last couple of days as yet unconfirmed , but it looks yet unconfirmed, but it looks like a russian drone might have landed in romania for that is nato territory . so all the more nato territory. so all the more reason for us once again to get colonel richard kemp, former british army commander, onto our programme. now, richard, i've been welcome back. i've been watching your output and your writings on this over the course of the last four months as ukraine even launched their spnng ukraine even launched their spring offensive and we keep getting a few optimistic reports here and there. but in truth, four months into this with vast casualties, it isn't going that well for ukraine, is it? >> unfortunately , it's not, no. >> unfortunately, it's not, no. unfortunately, the ukrainians have not succeeded in really breaking through even the first line of the russian defences. and once you get through that

first line, there are then huge miles and miles and miles of further defences to fight through. it's not it's not a very easy thing at all. and the reality is that the ukrainians don't have the capabilities that we would hopefully have if we were fighting a similar war. and above all, above all capabilities. i think they lack our power and we've failed to provide air power to them and it's very difficult to counter this kind of defence without any air power and without enough tanks and infantry soldiers. and i think above all, without enough artillery. so it's a really tough task that they are fighting hard and they've made some advances , but very, very some advances, but very, very limited . limited. >> no? well, many people , >> no? well, many people, richard, have drawn comparisons with the great war, you know, trenches, barbed wire, artillery fire, infantry, advances over open ground, huge casualties . open ground, huge casualties. when anybody attacks . but you when anybody attacks. but you and the telegraph today were suggesting that with kim jong un

meeting putin and potentially giving him a huge supply of weapons, albeit somewhat out of date, but a huge supply of weapons, you were almost drawing a comparison in with what happenedin a comparison in with what happened in 1918 when the germans launched this massive attack against the allies and almost won the first world war. >> yeah, the germans basically bled the allies dry on the front line for a long period of time . line for a long period of time. and while they were doing that, they were accused relating huge amounts of combat power so they could strike through the line and break through and defeat the allies, which they they succeeded to some extent. it was called the kaiserschlacht in 1918. and it basically took more territory than had been taken by either side in the previous four years of the war. and i think that's what russia has in mind. russia is currently , i believe, russia is currently, i believe, is trying to get ukraine to exhaust its western supplied western equipment,

exhaust its western supplied western equipment , forces, western equipment, forces, tanks, artillery, infantry , tanks, artillery, infantry, soldiers, everything. they've got to exhaust them on the what's called the savochkin line, which is the main defensive line in in in in ukraine. and once they've done that , i would ukraine. and once they've done that, i would imagine that putin will wind up to launch an offensive back against ukraine. but in order to do so, he needs a lot more artillery , tanks and a lot more artillery, tanks and other weapons. and he's got now and north korea is an ideal place to find that beyond what he can manufacture for himself. final thought, richard, but potentially very important one, a drone that landed and exploded in romania a couple of days ago. >> it has not yet been confirmed that it was a russian drone, but the suspicions are building that it was is that would be a russian missile onto a nato territory. history is littered with horrible outbreaks of war that happen through accidents .

that happen through accidents. could this possibly be one of those? >> yeah, of course. we've seen this before . earlier in the war, this before. earlier in the war, we saw a russian well, in fact , we saw a russian well, in fact, it turned out to be ukrainian air defence missile that landed in poland was originally thought to be a missile and there was a lot of panic then about this is to going lead to nato coming in. i don't think it will. i think it will probably find out if this is a russian drone, will probably find out this was an accident. it wasn't an intentional attack on a nato country. and will be calmed country. and it will be calmed down that. course, it's down after that. of course, it's very serious. any any kind very serious. and any any kind of firing of munitions at a nato country has to be taken seriously. but i suspect that calmer heads will prevail than those who might well, those who might think, well, immediately must we must immediately we must we must unleash against russia i >> -- >> well, some reassurance there, at least. colonel kemp, thank you. once again for giving us that update. and i have to say , that update. and i have to say, you read the british press and it's always wildly optimistic about ukraine's military chances

. regular viewers to this program will know . i've been program will know. i've been pretty sceptical about this spnng pretty sceptical about this spring offensive, which is now going into autumn. many many times. the what the farage moment now. chris bryant sir chris bryant, the mp for rhondda, the man who told the house of commons under parliamentary privilege that i'd taken half £1 million from the russians in 2018, all part of the russia hoax. none of it was true. complete lie and then went on good morning britain produced his book to show that he is absolutely now as chairman of a standards committee . he the man standards committee. he the man setting the standards for public life in british politics. have a listen to this. and that. >> you've got you've normalised lying to parliament if you have a prime minister and ministers repeatedly misleading the house of commons and refusing to correct the record. of course, you know, people we've all done it. we've made we've said million instead of billion or we've or we've managed to get a statistic wrong for whatever you've been advised wrongly. >> that all of that be

>> does that all of that be yeah, but, but then you correct the record. >> that's the rule. you correct the record. >> that's the rule . you correct >> that's the rule. you correct the record. when you get things wrong. well sir chris bryant, you haven't corrected the record with me one little bit. what you said led to a huge amount of abuse, abuse being poured on me, led to me having to cancel an event because of threats of violence . and yet now the news, violence. and yet now the news, folks, is that sir keir starmer has put sir chris in the shadow cabinet, so i'd better ask you, sir keir starmer, are you happy to have someone who is lied outright to parliament as one of your shadow cabinet ministers? this is not going to go away now. sir howard davies , the dude now. sir howard davies, the dude that runs or is the chair of the natwest banking group, the man who's failed at virtually every major public appointment that he's had? the man who made the decision that alison rose must stay as the ceo only to be forced to have another emergency board meeting a few hours later

, and of course, to get rid of her for breaching client confidentiality and for breaking absolutely every rule in the fca's code. and indeed the banking book. but sir howard's got away with it. yes, he's going to be allowed to stay until the end of his term as chairman at the end of april next year. that means from the moment at which he should have been sacked for absolute negligence in every way, he will have earned another year, half £1 million. doesn't the established agent look after its own? oh so beautifully. and dame alison is still on course to walk away in total with £11 million from natwest and given that 39% of that is owned by us, we in effect are paying these people huge sums of money for breaching confidentiality, for lying about it and breaking the rules doesn't make sense to me. there is a new boss going to take over as chair of the natwest group. his name is rick haythornthwaite. he is a very distinguished businessman, had big jobs running mastercard and

many other major companies, many other boards . heavy involvement other boards. heavy involvement with south bank and a very distinguished man in many ways, all that worries me ever so slightly is that he said recently that military entry orders ought to be softened to help with diversity . oh dear, oh help with diversity. oh dear, oh dean help with diversity. oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. nothing is going to change, is it? nothing's going to change. the woke culture will be there and we still all are the people that have bailed it out. and a final thought. the weather is beautiful. for six weeks it rained for the kids whilst they were off school. now every day seems to be amazing. 12 hours of sunshine, not much wind at all. and that, of course, means that it's very, very good for the criminal gangs that want to ship people across the english channel. and these remarkable photos , graphs were taken in the photos, graphs were taken in the engush photos, graphs were taken in the english channel this morning. if you look at the how calm the sea is, if you look at the clarity of the pictures, you can see the

faces very, very clearly of these people on the boat. i can't see a single woman. i can't see a single woman. i can't see a single woman. i can't see a single child. i would estimate don't know. on that boat. is it 70? is it 80 or is it 85? it's difficult to say, but these are now gigantic boats and many hundreds are coming every single day . and this will every single day. and this will go on until at least next tuesday or wednesday, because that's what the weather forecast says. that's what the weather forecast says . now, conservative member says. now, conservative member of parliament is suggesting yorkshire mp nick fletcher is suggesting it's time we had a minister for men. we've got minister ministers for women and for those that are disabled and for those that are disabled and for those that are disabled and for those of all sorts of genders and ethnicities . for those of all sorts of genders and ethnicities. is it time we had a minister for men or would it be wholly unnecessary bureaucracy? we'll try and find out the answer in just a moment

so nick fletcher, tory mp for yorkshire , says we need a men's yorkshire, says we need a men's minister. well, he's right about one thing. there are certainly men's issues that perhaps have been neglected over the years. things such as male cancer checks that have been really, really underplayed. he's also . really underplayed. he's also. right in many ways to point to a problem that we're not quite sure what men ought to be anymore. we're worried about saying anything about appearing to be overbearing , worried in saying anything about appearing to be overbearing, worried in an office whether we might be bullying. there are lots of men's issues, and in many ways , men's issues, and in many ways, in many ways, you know, it's been the rise of certain figures on social media. you know, who who actually who actually some may say represent extreme views. but belinda brown joins me men's right activists . let's just right activists. let's just start there . the andrew tate start there. the andrew tate phenomenon and i mean phenomenon. yeah i mean, you

will not find a teenage boy that does not know of andrew tate that hasn't looked at some of his online content and actually, do you know what? some of it's quite sensible. it says, look after yourself, be fit, be ambitious , try and get on in the ambitious, try and get on in the world. but when it comes to how you interact with women, some of it i think is pretty scary stuff. yeah so when nick fletcher says there should be a minister for men and you, beunda minister for men and you, belinda is a, you know, an activist in this area, i think you believe this is the right thing to do as well. well, what kind of image, what kind of masculine male image are we looking to fight for ? looking to fight for? >> i think that , you know what >> i think that, you know what andrew tate did? he's kind of he's a in a sense, milked this area. you know, men have been really put down. there's been this awful phrase, toxic masculinity . and he's kind of masculinity. and he's kind of fidden masculinity. and he's kind of ridden this wave , which which is ridden this wave, which which is really unfortunate . but and i really unfortunate. but and i think the thing is that he's

actually he's touching on. let me just talk about something. it's a tiny truth. i'm a researcher. and one of the things that my husband and i, we did we did a lot of research into men and employment and all the rest of it. and one of the things that we found was that when men were in a relationship so firstly, when men were in a relationship, then when men got married, then when they had children with each step, their income went up, their employment went up, particularly amongst the say, let's say the less educated it was really that that a place in the family was a really important motivating factor for men, particularly if you if you don't have a really grand interest in job and this this family role has been completely taken away from them and i think that's left a big vacuum that that we really need to look at. and the thing is, it's there's a real irony

because what you actually find and there's so much research on this. so what you find is that in those areas, there was a massive study done by the massachusetts institute of technology, great place, massive study. and it showed that where male employment increases rates of marriage increase rates of single parenthood go down and it's good for everybody . dodi it's good for everybody. dodi i want to be clear. i am absolutely in favour of women working. i don't feel i mean, what would what would belinda, what would what would belinda, what would what would belinda, what would feminist groups say about a for minister men? >> they'd say, oh, hang on. men have had it all their own way for 2 million years. you know what is what they'd say. >> do know, one of the >> do you know, one of the things i was really pleased about was listening to about when i was listening to the this morning was the radio this morning was actually people actually i think people are starting to realise that starting to realise is that there are real issues for men. yes, always having yes, you'll always having people making but making those arguments, but we've all got we've got sons , we've all got we've got sons, lovers, husbands, fathers and we know that there are issues. i don't think people realise the extent to which there are

issues, but i think the vast majority of people appreciate. you know, we see our sons suffering at school . you know, suffering at school. you know, the situation with boys in education from the age of five right through to the end of know being told they're bad people. absolutely and they're doing much i don't think much worse. so i don't think that there's going to be a big argument this. i think argument against this. i think there's to support. but there's going to be support. but do do we think that do we think do we think that establishing a minister men, establishing a minister for men, another a huge another subset of a huge whitehall department, the bureaucracy that goes with it, do we think it'll really make any difference? i i think it will difference . will make a difference. >> your trust in government is charming in many ways. >> i no look, i have no >> i have no look, i have no trust in government. i have no trust in government. i have no trust in government. what i trust in government. what i trust in government. what i trust in is people are there sort of a bit led by the nose if they see the government as saying this is important, they'll start believing it. you know, when the government said, you know, women are important, they believe that think they believe that people i think people actually only people it will actually only enable to take this issue enable people to take this issue really seriously. if there is a minister for men. i i think it's

i think it is an important thing and i think it could really achieve massive things. and i and i just think it's so important that it isn't seen as a divisive issue that we do work together. and, you know, i hope very interesting. >> i was america two weeks >> i was in america two weeks ago for the first republican debate. i know trump wasn't there, but other contenders there, but the other contenders were. the new the were. and the new kid on the block, vivek ramaswamy, when they about social issues they talked about social issues and in american and difficulties in american cities, there's one big cities, he said there's one big problem. it's problem. um, it's fatherlessness. it's a lack of male role models and what's been very interesting is that debate is now very live in america, but it's almost as if belinda, in this country , no one dares say this country, no one dares say that actually a kid's life chances are better off with two parents. we almost dare not say it anymore. >> it's such a shame. it's there is so much data to back it up. and i'm talking as a single mother. you know, i am a single parent, but i still recognise the importance of having a father in the family . the father

father in the family. the father is like the linchpin to the survival of the family and we need to get fathers back into families and a key role in that is actually ensuring that that boys are educated and men are employed, that is a really key issue , which, you know, of issue, which, you know, of course i want that for women as well. but women have got that. i feel confident about women that will bring fathers back into their families. will bring fathers back into theirfamilies. it will bring fathers back into their families. it it's a key. i think it's really important. and i think that's what underlies. so many of the problems that boys are having in education is fatherlessness. actually, i don't know if there's time for me to talk about a little research. >> you've got a max 30s. >> you've got a max 30s. >> we did a little research project where we looked at boys who had a more traditional point of about the role of men in of view about the role of men in the family. and we assessed that level. and found was level. and what we found was that who understood that that boys who understood that there was a place for men to support families, provide a role that they were actually doing better at school because they had this vision, they had this

vision of a role for themselves. interesting and i think that's really important. interesting and i think that's reaiinteresting. t. interesting and i think that's reaiinteresting. belinda >> interesting. belinda brown said great passion. and said with great passion. and thank you very well thank you very much. well somebody who a lot about somebody who knows a lot about being father because he's got, being a father because he's got, i think, kids at least. i think, six kids at least. i sure he's got six kids. it seems a lot of these senior tories have an lot of children, have an awful lot of children, joins me now. it's jake. is it six, it is six, yes, six, jacob? it is six, yes, that's right. now, tell me, what is coming up the jacob is coming up on the jacob rees—mogg state of the nation show. >> again, we're talking about energy and this ridiculous windfall tax that is stopping us getting oil and gas out of the nonh getting oil and gas out of the north sea because the companies are losing money it. and are losing money doing it. and this bad for this is really bad for consumers. prices it consumers. it puts prices up, it increases is our balance of payments deficit. it's just generally economic policy . generally bad economic policy. and that, as always, falls on the backs of consumers. >> need to chris packham >> we need to get chris packham on show at some point on the show at some point because did little because he did a little interview for us the other day making opposite making all the opposite arguments. we need to have arguments. but we need to have these debates. jacob i'm astonished that so little coverage today's press about coverage in today's press about some the potentially

some of the potentially draconian that passed draconian laws that were passed last night in parliament with only nine mps objecting . only nine mps objecting. >> i know. look at section ten of the bill which could potentially make it a criminal offence to sell your family home if it doesn't meet insulation criteria and you put in prison for up to 12 months and no one outrageous talk about it. >> liberty, it seems, is unfashionable. it will come back into fashion at some point in the future. well, it jolly well had better do right ? that the future. well, it jolly well had better do right? that is it from me. i'll back with you from me. i'll be back with you tomorrow evening at 7:00. live here in london. but for now, let's a look at the let's have a look at the wonderful summer weather i >> -- >> the temperatures rising , boxt >> the temperatures rising, boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. on. gb news. >> hello again. it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office with the gb news forecast . it's a warm, sultry night to come. for many of us, more hot sunshine on into thursday. a small chance of thunderstorms developing towards western and

southwestern areas in particular as low pressure sends heat and humidity northwards across the uk. now, any thunderstorms that do develop will be very hit and miss, quite isolated, mostly towards western areas overnight . but there is the chance that these thunderstorms will contain frequent flashes of lightning. so they could be quite visible in the night sky where they do occur. some low cloud creeping into it's a warm night into the east. it's a warm night for many mid to high teens and in some places no colder than 20 or 21 celsius. so some patchy fog about first thing thursday. and some of this misty low cloud in the east. but that will tend to retreat to north sea coasts and for many it's a fine day, but we've still got that potential thundery activity moving north into northern ireland and parts of scotland by the it's a very warm the afternoon. it's a very warm or hot day in places 29 to 32 celsius in the south, 28 celsius for northern scotland . so the for northern scotland. so the heatis for northern scotland. so the heat is extensive across the uk andifs heat is extensive across the uk and it's a warm start to friday again , some of that misty low

again, some of that misty low cloud in the east. again, the threat of thundery showers towards the west and south—west. but otherwise it's just a case of sunny skies and the temperatures continue to rise up to 33 celsius in places by saturday. >> the temperatures rising . boxt >> the temperatures rising. boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on .

gb news. >> hello. good evening. it's me, jacob rees—mogg on state of the nation. tonight in a time when energy supply is short and costs are high, why is his majesty's government making north sea gas and oil exploration more difficult ? while we're difficult? while we're constantly reminded of energy companies profits, some companies profits, some companies are now making losses because of the draconi windfall tax imposed by supposedly conservative government . it's conservative government. it's time the tories scrapped it . 156

time the tories scrapped it. 156 schools have been confirmed to contain aerated concrete and 19 of them have had to delay the start of term. but the education secretary has found herself embroiled in yet another imbroglio regarding her language after her controversial hot mic moment. gillian keegan has told school leaders they need to get off their backsides , posteriors, off their backsides, posteriors, as some call it, and respond to the concrete crisis consultation options. it's shoplifting . no options. it's shoplifting. no longer a crime in britain has it been relegated to the pettiness and insignificance of cyclists ignonng and insignificance of cyclists ignoring road signs ? well, ignoring road signs? well, that's exactly what the chairman of asda, lord rose, has suggested . remember that suggested. remember that supermarkets account for theft in their pricing . so as ever, in their pricing. so as ever, this means more costs for you paying this means more costs for you paying for the thieves, plus the department for work and pensions has revealed the extent of the uk's economically inactive population owing to the disruptive effects of the pandemic. 5.4 million people are now on out of work benefits. even though a labour shortage is the excuse for mass migration